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We’ve collated just some of our questions and answers in hopes that they be may of use to others. We have a lot more that will be included at a later date. Letters have been edited mostly to protect the identity of the writer. Later we intend to catalog them by topic.

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Dear Pennsylvania Neurology:
 
Today I ran across the link for your site as I was searching for info about myokymia.  I frequently do medical research on the internet, and I have numerous medical conditions for which I keep informed about.  I am so very impressed with, and grateful for, your site.  It has to be one of the most informative, easy-to-understand, broadly ranging site I have ever read.  It is obvious that you care about people, and you have gone all out to explain everything.  As I kept reading, I was just dumbfounded at all of the information that you gave, and how well you explained it - including your personal observations and opinions.  Between my medical background and personal experiences of these last years, it is fairly easy for me to understand.  But even for those who have neither, it is very explanatory and a true Godsend.  Like your site said, "try to learn all you can" about diseases; be informed so that you can make rational choices and that "knowledge decreases fear."  If only more physicians, and people in general, agreed with - or even realized - this, life would be so much easier.
 
In the past 12 years that I have been sick, I have been to many physicians, including neurologists.  I hit many brick walls, had many doors slam doors in my face, and had them tell me that everything was all in my head.  Finally, I found some wonderful doctors up in Langhorne and Philadelphia, PA, but had to move to Tennessee back in 1995.  I had an awful time of it getting a doctor who would even take me on as a patient, much less help me with the medication and tests that I need on a regular basis.  (In this state, you have to file an application and wait to be accepted by a physician - something that was truly foreign to me before I came here.)  I have been so grateful every since I found my GP, and one cannot even begin to appreciate this unless they have had to go through the hard time that I did.  
 
It is difficult to find doctors who will take the time to explain things to you and encourage you to read up and be informed - forearmed, I call it - about your medical conditions and diseases.  Physicians here get annoyed, and act like they are somewhat intimidated when a patient can read up on, and understand their own body - and then come into their offices and hold an intelligible conversation.  My endocrinologist told me many years ago to go and read about my diseases, and even encouraged me to call him back if I had any trouble getting into the hospital library.  I am not diagnosed with MS, but we have discussed it before.  My symptoms were getting worse before, but since being in an auto accident in April, I am just so tired of being poked, scanned and stuck, I have just kept my mouth shut about the most recent problems I have been having.  I figure if it gets worse, then I'll say something about it.  My doctor had already told me prior to my accident that things were already as good as they were going to get.
 
Thank you for your site.  After reading it, I just felt compelled to let you know how much I appreciated it, and I am sure that so many others do, as well.  It was so complete with information, I bookmarked it.  I will be sure to share it with my friends and hold on to it in case I or anyone I know ever needs it in the future.  Your patients are truly lucky people to have found physicians like you.  It sounds like they are in very capable hands.  God Bless.
 

 

  
Q I don't normally e-mail anyone to comment on their website. However, I must make an exception in this case. I have been having some classic symptoms of MS (though I did not know details about MS) for some years now. My new Neurologist mentioned the possibility of MS in a roundabout way to me. I amhaving an MRI next Tuesday. I have been surfing the net to see what I can find out about the disease. I have been reading for a week on MS and I finally ran across your website. This is the most informative page that I have read so far. It is in plain enough terms that anyone can see the whole picture. I agree wholeheartedly about wanting to KNOW what is going to happen. The way that you explained WHY we can't know certainly relieves my mind. If I had not read this page I am certain that I would be apt to not have confidence in my doctor if and when he diagnoses me. I had been seen by a Neurologist for about 6 years with no diagnosis and my dear old Neurologist retired recently. I am not familiar yet with my new Neurologist yet. Your website probably saved a doctor-patient relationship. Whoever wrote the webpage has a gift. Thank you even if I am not diagnosed with MS.

 

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I have briefly read your article on dizziness and I must say this is the first time that I feel that someone out there understands how I feel.  I also believed that I was imagining things and that no-one was listening.  Can I just give you my story very briefly. I suffered badly from nausea and dizziness.  Then I was put on a diet where I must eat 6 meals a day and it was a high fibre diet.  Within 2 weeks I started feeling better and my dizziness went away.  Then I was hit with a sore throat and ear infection and the dizziness and nausea returned with avengence.  After reading your article I know why. I also have this fuzzy full feeling in my head and it makes me anxious and then I get this heavy feeling in my chest like its closing.  I have tinnitus and when I feel dizzy the tinnitus is definitely worse.  In fact it is terrible.  I have always had ear problems.  This is the first article that I have read that connects ear problems with dizziness.  No doctor even mentioned it to me.  Strange.
 
I want to thank you for your most information article which I have printed to read in detail.  I will then go and see an ear nose and throat specialist and take it from there.
 
Thank you
 
(From South Africa)

 

QI am so happy that you all took the time to put up your website! After reading it, I am fairly certain that I suffer from BPPV. The dizziness has been a problem for me for several years, since age 21 or 22. However it only occurs during sleep. I noticed how it works. The horrible dizziness wakes me up. It happens exclusively when I'm sleeping on my side, and that being the left side. Immediately I turn and lie straight on my back. The dizziness quickly subsides. Up until a year or so ago, the dizziness used to take a while to go away, usually up to a couple of hours. Even so, I would feel the episode's effects during that day, similar feeling as if I was recovering from a hangover. Lately though the effects are different. The dizziness goes away immediately, as soon as I turn from a side position to lying flat on my back. Sleeping on the right side sometimes also causes spinning but not as bad as lying on my left side.

I've had many tests done including MRI, heart tests, neuro tests, and others. Nothing organic was found. No diagnosis was made. This leads me to believe that I do in fact have BPPV.

You mentioned the Epley maneuver. Can I do this myself at home? I have been losing sleep due to the regular vertigious episodes. Can this technique be done in my home town of Rochester? Can you recommend someone if needed?

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Dr. Yanofsky,
 
I just wanted to write and thank you for the wonderful website in which I found both informative and comforting at the same time. You are providing a great service for those of us who have been diagnosed with MS.
 
I was diagnosed with MS in Aug of 2001 and now reside in Columbus, Georgia.  I fit into the demographics in which your article presents. I was born in Butler, PA and resided both in PA and the state of Maryland until I was 18 years of age, at which time I joined the Army and completed a full career in the military. I was active throughout my whole life enjoying and playing many different sports.
 
I am seeing a neurologist.
 
Again, I want to thank you for the wonderful information your website provides.
 
 
 

 

Q Your website is remarkable. I looked through it on my lunchtime. I have had occassional dizzy spells going back into my teens. (I am 38 yr old female). At approximately 17 I would wake up dizzy (not on any meds at the time) and go to bed dizzy for three days straight. Not vertigo, just dizzy, weak, but functioning. At approximately 21, I had my 2 year old daughter with me in a supermarket and I recall all of a sudden the room was spinning and I fell to the floor trying not to let go of my daughter's hand because it was crowded. I was terrified and embarrassed, grabbed my daughter and hobbled out. It went away quickly leaving me groggy, fatigued and dazed for a day or too. It seem to come and go rarely over the next 15 or so years. Yesterday, I woke up with that sick, dizzy, tired feeling and it stayed with me all day. I care for my father who is a stroke victim plus work full time, so I am under at a lot of stress. Today the dizziness has faded, but I have that tired, weak feeling you get after a bout with dizziness. It was not vertigo. About six months ago I was placed on Cozaar b/c my bp was staying at approx. 180/100 (had been 125-130/70 or 80 for years, so I do not attribute the dizziness to the bp because it began in my teens. I have never seen a doctor for the dizziness. I will. But I would greatly appreciate your feedback or thoughts.

Thank you!

 

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Back in 1995 I was diagnosed with MS. I was born & raised in a small town in Pennsylvania. I went back for my 25th HS reunion, nothing unusual except a classmate I found also has MS plus a girl who graduated 1 year ahead of me. In 2001 I went back to another reunion and find that 4 more classmates have this disease. It seems to me that this is higher than the national average as this is a really small town and I had maybe 129 kids in my graduating class.

Could you please steer me in the direction of someone who might be interested in looking into this? I can't help but feel that we may have all been exposed to something. And I don't know if there are any more in town that have MS. These are mostly within my graduating class and a classmate has gone down real quickly. If you know of anyone doing research in this area, could you please pass this on...I am hoping someone will look into this and it may help with research someday.

Thank you for reading this.

 

A Clusters of diseases occur frequently and probably 99% of the time don't mean much. In the case of MS, which may well be caused by an infectious agent, clusters are intriguing and there seem to be a few of them.

Some disease clusters will inevitably occur on a random or chance basis because you have so many communities, there is a bell shaped curve in the incidence of any disease and some communities are inevitably going to be on the high end of this bell curve. Many clusters upon inspection turn out to be erroneous. All those cases of MS oftentimes turn out not to be MS. You might contact your MS society and also any University MS Center. Someone might be interested in looking at your cluster

 

 

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Subject: severe dizziness

I was hoping you could give some me some direction. I broke my C-1 in 1997 since then when turning by head in certain positions, like to the left when doing sit-ups or yesterday I had been sitting in a chair and tilted my head back to talk to someone and it felt like I lost control-I got severely dizzy like never before, I sweat profusely, and co-worker said I was red faced and my eyes looked strange-I think I have may have been out for a few seconds. I had a cat scan done-no problems were noted-what should my next step be? Any ideas what could be causing this.

 

A You might ask your doctor to consider a problem with the vertebral artery. That can be looked at with an MRA scan. In the meantime AVOID PUTTING YOUR NECK IN ANY EXTREME POSITION!!
QSubject: thanks Yikes, thanks! Yours was one of the best sites I've found about MS in three years. Found the MS foundations etc web sites way less helpful, way more condescending, palliative rather than informational. I have been searching for information on MS and brain atrophy. Most web sites don't include or seem to discount (gloss over) this. I am now most concerned with that aspect of MS. As my latest MRI seems to indicate "chronic" "atrophy "of the brain, show a reduced brain size, weight, etc. My neurologist pointed this out to me when we looked at my initial MRI's three years ago, and now pointed it out to me when I presented him with new MRI's I had taken in Italy now - (lots cheaper $500 US vs $5000 US at my initial MRI in Los Angeles.) . Searches on the internet have (reluctantly) revealed that part of the MS pathology has to do with "atrophy of the brain" which is the specific problem I am addressing to you.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Does it mean once you "have " MS your brain is going to shrink, whether or not you have symptomatic episodes? Because the "virus" is still working in your system? Whether you know it or not. Every time you have some kind of inflammation of an MS triggered response (even if asymptomatic), your brain will atrophy more, "shrink?" Are there any statictics of atrophy over time - like can you predict (or generalize) degree of atrophy over years? Through MRI's between years? What does it mean when your brain "atrophies?" What do you lose? Cognitively. or otherwise. Or is this not predicative, predictable? ( I understand how difficult this is to evaluate, let alone predict, still ...) How bad does "atrophy" have to do with your brain's functioning - (I know that means a lot, but) . Does it have to do with both muscular and sensory reactions (probably). But what does it have to do with cognitive functions, ie, thinking, judgement, "intellectual functions" etc. This is my biggest MS fear. Which doesn't seem to be talked about. Except forums, etc, saying, "50% of MS patients find some cognitive problems." Here's what I'm worried about. I could (maybe) deal with wheel chairs, vision problems, bladder, etc. But I am not sure at all how to deal with possibilites of not being "cognitive." I am enormously "cognitive." I am a writer. A reader. A thinker. I make my living doing that. I live my life doing that. If I am going to lose those abilities to do the things that define my life, I wanna know about it.I wanna know about it so I can plan the next years of my life. Simply, if I'm gonna get less able to function intellectually, I wanna know about it. I am writing to you to ask you for any informaton you might have on MS and brain atrophy and what that means. Anything you could forward to me re that syndrome would be very much appreciated. I was diagnosed with MS three years ago when I sought out a neurologist after a scary and puzzling moment of losing coordination, ability to control function in my right hand - yeah, couldn't sign my name, hand kinda went all over the page - woah! Thought I had maybe had a stroke - ready for that one since I'd recently nursed my mother through 3 months of repeated strokes and her final death. So neurologist puts me thro batch of tests, including an MRI with the contrast stuff they shoot you up with, which, as he said, was "lit up like a Christmas tree." Obviously, an "exacerbation." MRI also showed many old lesions in both hemispheres of my brain which obviously had been asymptomatic - I never had a clue previously that anything was wrong. I am "old" to be diagnosed with MS. 54 at diagnosis, neurologist was not figuring on MS due to my age, (but smart enough not to rule it out) and so apparantly I've maybe had it for many years as evidenced by number of "old" lesions on MRI). I have also, before this, been real "healthy" - no problems at any ordinary physical exams, no symptomatic problems, I run and do yoga regularly for 25 years, look, feel, act "younger" than my age due maybe to personality, good genes, exercise, and years of work in media, music, and advertising.

I opted not to go on any drug therapy at the initial diagnosis - Avonex, Betaseron, etc at the time - even though I must fairly say my neurologist recommended it. My rationale - excuse - was, hey, I travel a lot in foreign countries, and I don't want to have to deal with drugs I not only have to "shoot up ie, inject" but that have to be kept at controlled temperatures, etc. I was also taking the "crapshoot" as I called it - as I also dubbed the whole disease of MS - a crapshoot - who knows how it goes - that maybe I would never have another symptomatic MS response and life would be just fine.

So good news - no, I've never had another symptomatic experience of MS. My "disability," maybe as result of exacerbation that first started me going to the neurologist, seems to be a minimal loss of sense of balance - I cannot leap up and down stairs while running as I used to, I detect a certain hesitancy in "fine balance," ie, moving gracefully between tables in a restaurant, negotiating small, precise, movements which heretofore I maybe had put off as generally, ok, I'm kinda clumsy, not the most graceful chick on the planet. But there is definitely more a sense of this, and maybe just an awareness of this, now that I have the MS diagnosis. I have also been very aware of questioning myself re these feelings of imbalance - are they "real " or have I become afraid of leaping up and down those stairs, am I more "clumsy" or just hesitant. Dunno. Basically, gratefully, my stamina seems to be as usual - good. Older than most I hooked up traveling with, but never thought I held them back, didn't. But I opted out when I thought it looked particularily creepy re crumbly, non-leval, lethal scrambles up hillsides of shale. To be fair, that kinda thing was never my fave rave, scrambling up sharding hillsides, leaping between rocks to ford a Fu**ing stream. But maybe it was never a fave rave because instinctually I knew I couldn't do it? And why not? Can't everyone do that? I've had great stamina. As I say, run up and down hills here in LA 3 times a week, breathe and do yoga, eat well, take vitamins, etc.

Here I am asking you to reply to me with any information you guys have. I would be most appreciative. Other "symptom" I have felt, has not been recognized by my neurologist. I tell him I get "jangly" at times. Meaning, I feel a sense of - not exactly dizziness - but maybe closest I can say - to nervous physical (not nervous/psychological) sense of real physical "jangly -ness" - I sense myself feeling uptight and unsure (of balance, precision) and an actual sense of unusual tightness/real physical sense of undue exertion when I am doing normal things like putting on eye-liner - precise movements during which I feel a physical sense of "jangliness" - like I am not doing this naturally and I am aware of it, and I feel a real physical strain while I am doing it. It is very hard to explain, I understand. But I tell him, I feel it in the back of my neck - if I have to localize it. I feel a nervous tension that doesn't stop me from doing my task, but I feel a sense of having to combat some sense of this is tough, this is making you very tense, takes a lot of effort, concentration (not cognitive, but physical)etc. Not at all the way I have lived my life heretofore. Food, seems to aliviate this, as in eat something and you wlll feel better. And it seems to help. Or not (psychologically). And I have wondered if maybe I have some kind of adult onset diabetes Or something- ie like maybe there is another syndrome going on at the same time - hey, why not,eh? - altho regular physical exams have never red-flagged this. All I know is I feel "jangly" and even thos it's no big deal - what the heck is that? Is is MS-y? Even though my nerurologist says he doesn't know from this. I want information about brain atrophy and MS. About if there are even generalizations about which parts of your brain "atrophy" would effect? Is this a non productive search, as in, we can never tell which functions of your brain general atrophy would affect? I understand you may not be able to give information which might go beyond your responsible imperatives as a researcher and health care provider, or might in any way imperil your position. 

Thanks, ciao,

AEveryone's brain mass shrinks as they age. Most of the work on brain atrophy in MS is preliminary and Rick Rudick of the Cleveland Clinic did some work that showed that a sensitive computer measure on MRI of brain atrophy, the so-called brain parenchymal fraction, decreased in patients with MS faster than in the general population. Furthermore, this brain atrophy over a period of about 2 years was much slowed with Avonex treatment.

Cognitive functions are affected by MS, sometimes very little, sometimes by a lot. Functions is affected by the volume of brain experiencing inflammation and scarring as much as it is by brain atrophy. On the MRI scan you can also get a good idea of the volume of brain affected by looking at the T2 images. On those you are able to see what is called a "lesion burden". Also there is another MRI phenomenon, black holes.

Any process that affects enough of the volume of the brain, infection, strokes, aging, degenerative disease or MS, may cause dementia. The greatest amount of loss of mental function will correlate, LOOSELY with the amount of brain volume lost, whether this is due to the death of brain cells, or loss of axons. While MS had been thought of for a long time as primarily a disease of myelin as indeed it is, newer studies have shown that MS cuts axons as well. We don't know exactly what causes brain atrophy as it appears on the MRI scans of persons with MS. It's suspected that atrophy is mostly caused by axonal trans-section or destruction.

Brain atrophy(brain parenchymal fraction) is reduced by using Avonex and very likely by other agents as well, especially Betaseron and Rebif. T2 lesion volume is absolutely diminished by any of these three drugs. That is good news. IF you have a firm diagnosis of MS, and are as you describe yourself, still quite vigorous, you absolutely should be on treatment. No ifs and or buts, no excuses. You wrote me a long letter but I think you said that you are not on a medicine. Ifso I can't agree with you. Information on atrophy is readily available using any search engine. Google is my favorite. I just typed in brain atrophy and MS and got tons of information but it all boils down to the same conclusion. Best of luck. Do what's right.

-Chas Yanofsky

 

AFor BPPV, (if you have BPPV which is possible given your description) there are so-called Brandt-Daroff exercises that you can do at home and they usually work. These maneuvers are described in texts on dizziness. Briefly they involve sitting on the middle of a long couch with your legs hanging off as they usually do, looking up and to your left, then quickly putting your head down to your right, lying in your right side flat down on the couch, staying there for perhaps ten seconds, (your nose is still pointed up and to the right) sitting upright again, your feet off the couch, looking up and to your right, then side lying flat on the couch on your left, staying in that pos'n for about 10 seconds then sitting upright again, then repeating this process. This is done a couple of times a day for perhaps two weeks or until symptoms subside. An Epley can be done at home and is described in the journal NEUROLOGY with pictures, but you have to know which side is responsible and it is possible, though not likely that you problem can be worsened with either of these maneuvers especially without a precise diagnosis and if not done properly. The advantage of doing an Epley maneuver at home is that it can be repeated as many times as is necessary to get an effect and can be used by the person should BPPV recur, as it often does. U. Rochester has a most excellent neurology department.

Charles Yanofsky


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QAfter reading your site I am interested in finding out how you can treat my wife's dizziness. She has had this problem for about 15 years after a whiplash auto accident and the symptoms are most prevalent when getting up from laying down. She recently underwent an MRI and it was negative just as your article suggested.
AI’m afraid I can't tell what your wife has given your brief description. Your description of symptoms is all-important. Is there a light headedness or near fainting type sensation, something which would affect vision? Some symptoms are “orthostatic” that is, occurring just as you get up and are often due to an acute drop in blood pressure that can be measured properly in a doctor’s office. That mostly causes a light-headedness or near fainting sensation. Other problems can occur on arising and are related to the inner ear.

Charles Yanofsky


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QI was diagnosed to have MS in Nov. of 1998. My neurologist says I have relapsing remitting type. I have had MRI scans and a spinal tap. The films show 4 lesion areas in my brain and spine. The situation is as follows: I've worked at heavy welding , and I mean heavy welding at building locomotives for 10 years. And having all the protective gear, helmet air steam weld coat and gloves. Now my dilemma, The neurologist states in a letter to me that the days before the MRI Utoffs phenomenon was used to determine if a suspected MS patient was such, at temperatures of 101 or some cases lower. I'm not saying weld heat causes MS but the extreme weld ambient heat I endured along with my auto immune disorder brought it about. Now there was a case of another steelworker where the neurologist thought the heat precipitated the MS. The case wasn't followed thru do to the fact the man didn't file his comp.claim within the 3 year time limit. How can I prove my job aggravated my MS??
AHeat does affect MS but the effect is temporary only. If you already have MS lesions or symptoms heat tends to bring out or exaggerate symptoms while you're hot and shortly thereafter. It's because of the way MS affects transmission of electrical activity in axons. As far as anyone knows, heat will not cause permanent harm and is not primarily responsible for your disease.

Charles Yanofsky


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QIs there any progress with using all four categories nutritionally to keep ms from happening or turning it around once you have it. Four categories are 60 minerals 16 vitamins 12 amino acids and 3 essential fatty acids. please advise.
AThe truth is no one has any legitimate (scientifically supportable, tested) information about MS and nutrition except that you should eat a healthy balanced diet. Weight loss would be advised if you are overweight. That's about it.

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QPlease please advise me. I first started going dizzy abut 1 and a half yrs ago but just when i stood up after sitting down and only occasionally since then it progressed till it was almost constant and bad and recently its better but still there, the room does not spin, and going on a plane affected it badly, holding my head back and throwing it forward also affected it greatly, when i have a bad attack of it i hold by head low to the floor and it eases off, ive been to the doctor and eventually he sent me to a blood specialist who examined me and said there was nothing wrong in that department! I’m thinking(hoping) its an ear problem, but don’t know. Please advise me what it could be and what to do
AI cannot tell what your problem is given your very brief description. I don't know because you don't say whether it is a light headedness or actual spinning vertigo, posturally related or not. Some folks have light headedness when they stand but in those people when properly done the blood pressure drops lying to standing. Anemia but also a host of other conditions can cause this with various diagnoses being more or less common depending on your age.

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QI am a 51 year old woman and was diagnosed with MS in April. I have heard rumors that there are certain foods that aggravate the disease, such as nutra sweet and alcohol. Could you please send me some information on this?
AThe Nutrisweet controversy is voluminous and bogus. You can find tons of misinformation on the Internet about this and a host of other topics relating to MS. There is simply no rigorous scientific information on Nutrisweet causing or worsening MS. I'd advise you to ignore all the hype. Alcohol causes a person to be a clumsy while you are using it and depending on what neurological deficits you have, that could make you temporarily more sensitive to alcohol, but there is no need most of the time to be a teetotaler. Of course I wouldn't recommend overdoing it for anyone because in large quantities if used regularly, alcohol is neurotoxic.Nutrition-wise we always recommend a good balanced diet in MS and a reasonable moderate exercise and weight loss (if you are overweight) program. It’s always a good policy to keep your head on your shoulders when evaluating rumor and to avoid extremes in all things, especially when it comes to diet and exercise. One thing you can be sure of. You are going to be exposed to a lot of silly claims such as the information on Nutrasweet. That's about all there is to dietary management. My best advice is to ignore all of the spectacular claims out there when it comes to diet. There are a lot of them.

Charles Yanofsky


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QI am a psychology major in Israel. My mother has been suffering from Multiple Sclerosis. I have been constantly looking into possible causes to her debilitation. I have realized a connection between certain behaviors, and childhood traumas, that have quite possibly led to her condition. I believe it is a psychosomatic disease, which with proper psychotherapy can be corrected. I can single out the origin of every attack to a possible situation that may have some connection to past traumas. I was wondering what is being done, as far as understanding the psyche of this disease. For so little is known in prediction of possible outbreaks of the disease. Maybe one should know the entire history of the patient in order to know how to treat him/her. I can understand the problems of chemical imbalances and so forth. But these imbalances can be attributed to the emotional maturity/influences of a child, that at a later date explode into a debilitating disease.
AActually, there is quite a body of scientific literature about the sychological effects and stress on MS. Very old literature speculated about the psychodymics of a number of illnesses with then unknown pathogenesis including Rheumatoid arthritis, Tourette Syndrome, Schizophrenia and a host of others. This makes for fascinating reading, but, in general, this has not proven to be a fruitful area of research. Nearly all of these theories, while sounding plausible, have been proven wrong and as medical science developed, physiological, organic, chemical, metabolic and genetic aspects were elucidated. As it happens in MS, the role of stress, surgeries and other life events in worsenings (exacerbations) is an important medico-legal issue. There have been many lawsuits alleging disease worsenings brought about by surgeries, life events, employment injuries, abuse etc etc. The American Academy of Neurology published a position statement on this issue in the Journal NEUROLOGY. The upshot is that despite many studies, evidence that either emotional trauma and/or surgery worsens MS is at best contradictory- Some studies show a slight effect, others do not. An interesting small scale observation was made in Israel on MS patients after the threatened Scud missile attacks, finding a slight NEGATIVE correlation between subsequent MS attacks after the threat.

You will find a lot of information just by doing a medical search on the internet or at a medical library, typing in "Multiple sclerosis and stress" or something similar. Good luck.

Charles Yanofsky


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QMy question is: What affect would/could chiropractic have on dizziness - specifically for BPPV?

The reason I ask is that up to two or three years ago when I visited my chiropractor for my shoulder problem, I had experienced dizziness (actually vertigo) regularly, although not seemingly linked to any particular situation, for example on rising. (I often get it simply out of the blue, sitting at my desk, walking, lying down, etc.) At the time of my second visit (4-5 days later), I realized that I had not had one dizzy spell during that time and have found that my dizzy spells seemed to be somewhat controlled by chiropractic. I had even gone for up to a month or two without them after having them at least 1-2 times weekly for past 3 or 4 years. They would often come back at about the same time I feel a (chiropractic) adjustment was due. I find this interesting. I would be pleased if you could suggest any article(s) regarding vertigo and chiropractic. Also, I would have found a chart format of symptoms and "possible diagnosis", etc., very helpful if it were in your article. Perhaps you'd consider this for the future.

AYou raise an interesting question. Chiropractic began when a grocer supposedly brought hearing back to a deaf subject by manipulating his neck! Chiropractic treatment would be expected to have no influence on vertigo except by serendipity. But oddly enough in the condition you mention, BPPV, which by your description you mayhave, it is possible that changes in position, methods of laying or turning during chiropractic manipulation accidentally caused you to improve (Treatment done in this haphazard fashion can also make you worse!). BPPV is easily handled in one or a couple of office visits and never requires twice weekly visits over years. A series of movements based on anatomy and empirical data is used to treat BPPV. This is called canalith repositioning. Two major techniques are the Epley maneuver done in the office and Brandt-Daroff exercises done at home. These treatments do work, but alas, there is a tendency for the condition to recur. As for flow charts for self-diagnosis, I don't recommend them. You can get into plenty of trouble trying to be your own doctor. Better to get the opinion of a well-trained medical expert, scientifically trained when it comes to your own health, which after all is a high stakes game. For me, there is no “alternative” to medical science.

Charles Yanofsky


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QI have been dizzy for 3 years now. I have been to the top specialists (Names) and still have no real answer. Luckily I have been able to function. I think what has helped me is to keep active and force myself to face as much visual stimulation as possible. In a store I need a cart or my cane. I was very impressed with your website. The is so much information. I I think I remembered reading it when this all began and even printed it o ff to give to my primary care physician. He had no clue about vestibular disorders. I hope you don't mind, but I would like to put my "autobiography" here so you can see what I have been through over 3 years….I am so tired of doctors and feel like I am wasting their time. Please let me know if you think it is worthwhile searching for answers. I have pretty much learned to accept this...... 99%...... but there is still that little 1% that tells me there is some hope. ...Date of Onset of vestibular disorder : 1996

Cause: Unknown. Had 8 week dizzy episode in 1985 but no findings.

Remember having dizziness in malls In early 1980's.

Some diagnoses I’ve had: Viral Endolabyrinthitis (bilateral?), BPPN, Secondary Hydrops, Utricular dysfunction, vertebral basilar migraine, sudden onset hearing loss, no evidence of inner ear problem at all, BPPV, allergy related, visual and proprioceptive deficits, increased motion sensitivity. Possible Sick building Syndrome and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity disorder.

Present Symptoms: Right weight bearing ,staggering w/left foot drop with too much visual stimulation, dark or crowded rooms or quick turn, head pressure, headaches and migraines, swimming head, tinnitus, ear fullness, nausea, visual problems, reading comprehension, short term memory, number reversals,dropped letters and words, sloppy handwritingm,bothered by flourescent lighting (especially flickering), unable to stand tandem with eyes closed (fall backwards to right) or walk "tightrope" on floor, difficulty in small rooms such as bathrooms and closets. feeling of a "peg left leg" or that one leg is shorter or heavier when staggering. No vomiting, two episodes of vertigo where room tilted, felt lightheaded (working a cash register), three nightime rotary vertigo episodes, tilt head back when driving to avoid raising eyes at lights and signs. Head tilts to right. Sensitivity to perfumes, cigarette smoke and other odors.

Activities that bring on symptoms: Shopping, crowded rooms, doing dishes, watching a mother rock infant,attending workshops where speaker paces, running copies on copier, copying text into computer , reading on computer, watching TV where camera pans or moves quickly or unsteadily, rooms with dim lighting, walking into a room full of children moving around, ringing on cash register and bagging, looking up at flourescent lighting, sitting at a light and watching cars turn in front of me, stress, looking for objects, cleaning my desk, walking down hallways ..especially in office buildings with a lot of turns, walking in buildings with loud furnaces that vibrate the floor, eating too much sugar,fatigue, standing in lines ..especially slow moving,exposure to chemicals/fumes Chemicals/Odors : Perfume, gasoline, paint, freshly cut grass, air freshners, scented fabric softener and detergents, scented soap,shampoo and hairspray, cigarette/cigar smoke, new wood, new books, product information brochures with slick pages, paper out of copier, bleach and other cleaners, some foods,

Medications: Tried Antivert, Baclofen, Hismanal, Calan SR, Valium, Zoloft and Paxil . Given 80mg IV Gentamicin during surgery in 1989. Presently on Trazodone for help sleeping.

Allergies: Erythromycin (causes extreme vertigo)

Alternative Approaches: chiropractor said my neck is in phase one. Had electric stimulation and adjustment of atlas everyday for 2 weeks. No improvement noticed Testing: MRI, ENG, Infared/Video ENG, ECOG, Rotary Chair, Computerized Dynamic Posturography,fistula test, Neuro-Test (Bradykinesia Test,Retropulsion TEst, Akinesia Test, Deep Knee Bend test etc,) VAT (Vestibular Autorotation test),Auditory Brainstem Response (ABR)

Findings: 1996: MRI normal except for bilateral maxillary sinus inflammation and asymmetrical pneumatization of the petrous apex with much greater pneumatization on the left than right ( more air space) 1997: VAT: horizontal normal, vertical :high normal gains with relative phase lead at high frequencies (pattern consistent with endolymphatic hydrops), ENG: 40% caloric response reduction in right ear. Posturography:normal, Neurotest: inability to accurately track, particularly forwards and backwards. Abnormal gains (low) on visual vestibular interaction tests. Research platform: two fall 5/6 pattern (mild vestibular deficit) Mild, but definite BPPN shown on video. Inability to compensate because of ocular abnormalities Abnormal binocular vision secondary to existing amblyopia (right lazy eye) with eccentric fixation and abnormalities in reading eye movement function. The presence of R amblyopia is causing a suppression of the R eye's visual input to the brain resulting in a loss of two-eyed depth perception. Amblyopia, head tilt and scoliosis combined with inner ear problem may be making it difficult to compensate for vestibular disturbances. vertical, ENG normal, not sure if inner ear is still involved but definite visual and proprioceptive problems. Second VAT showed abnormal results in both vertical and horizontal. Felt problems exist in all three areas... visual, vestibular and proprioceptive. Therapy: Vestibular Rehab tried with two therapists.. couldn't finish due to work schedule and feeling too ill. Physicians: (Top names in dizziness, all over the USA) (This letter was cut by about one-half and details were removed to protect privacy)

ATo be honest with you, you've already seen and named some most of the top names in the field of vestibular disorders. I've attended lectures and/or otherwise learned from a number of them! On the other hand your clinical picture is most confusing and you sure have a lot of discrepant diagnoses there, which either means that someone is wrong or they've just pigeonholed you, not knowing what you have. You have a normal ENG and one showing 40% caloric weakness in the right ear, something that most commonly occurs with viral labyrinthitis (vestibular neuritis) and I wonder if that abnormal ENG might have been done when you were in the throes of an attack of severe vertigo. What you don't report is results of an audiogram which might exclude the possible dx of Meniere's (endolymph. hydrops).I've seen many folks who had attacks of vestibular neuritis which causes acute severe vertigo and vomiting usually then have a protracted recovery as sometimes occurs. Some of them, for some unknown reason later develop BPPV, that is I can see they have specific nystagmus that is induced on the Hallpike in the right or left ear down position. I theorize that they might have really had a type of cupulolithiasis (loose "ear rocks") that get dislodged suddenly. The importance of this is that they often respond to canalith repositioning. Secondarily, persons with prolonged mild positional vertigo very often develop a sort of phobic positional vertigo as I describe in our pamphlet. They are overwhelmed by certain stimuli (a sort of supermarket syndrome), your position computer is overwhelmed with certain sets of stimuli which may be what you are describing. My best advice: See one of these experts again for the specific purpose of finding out whether or not you might benefit from some kind of canalith repositioning. Then you must follow thru with good vestibular rehab for the phobic aspect of your problem. Understand that I have here only part of the clinical picture but that this is my best guess. Some persons have either a combination of diagnoses and many folks have problems that are not readily classifiable with the best diagnostic techniques in the hands of world-renowned experts. I have found an awful lot of you around! Many persons have had the most sophisticated medical tests done over and over again. The good part is that at least they know there is no terrible progressive organic problem that will end in disability or death. The bad part is that for one reason or another, they have no diagnosis. Sometimes for all of the technology applied, a good medical history is lacking. The emphasis has been on finding a diagnosis even after diminishing returns on thousands of dollars worth of evaluations or tests rather than teaching a person to adapt. For some people finding a good vestibular rehab program and sticking with it is the answer. Others have to delve a little deeper into psycho-social issues.

Charles Yanofsky


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QI just wanted to thank you for your informative and encouraging article about M.S. My husband is currently undergoing many of the tests you described to confirm what doctors believe is the early stages of M.S. This has been a very frightening time for us. The doctors have been hesitant to say too much until a more definite diagnosis can be made, which means we have been left to speculate on what this disease could mean for our family. Reading your article helped me to start looking at this situation in a different and more positive way. I just wanted you to know that you've helped someone with your writing and I am grateful.

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QDear Doctors,

I saw your MS publication on the WWW and think it's great, but I have some questions remaining. If you know the answers, please fell free to reply with any info.

1. I have heard of oral myelin, I believe to "sensitize" the body so that the immune system won't consider it foreign. Do you know if it ever past the FDA?

2. What substances is myelin made up of? Would increasing daily ingestion of these substances aid in re-mylinization of patches in MS? If not, what would aid in the repair? Would increased B12 aid in repair? folate? fats/lipids? protein?

3. Where might I find a chart on the WWW to rate current MS disability?

Thank you ever so much!

AYou are right on about your theories regarding oral myelin. The rationale for using it is akin to desensitization in allergy. Unfortunately oral myelin was not found to be effective in reducing MS attacks in a small study. That does not mean that the substance will ultimately not be effective but there is much less interest in it now. For one thing, most myelin should be digested by the gut way before it is absorbed. There are special immune reactions that occur right in the GI tract involving IgA and other substances but I think the digestion of the stuff is very likely to limit its utility. There also may be some small danger in using myelin, something called mad-cow disease, (Creutzfeldt_Jakob disease) the you may have heard about in the news. Myelin is the insulation around nerves and in the central nervous system relevant to MS, tracts and it is primarily a fatty substance. There is no evidence that taking in larger amounts of myelin, which is synthesized on its own anyway in the brain, will in any way affect the course of multiple sclerosis. There is little to no evidence that B12 has any effect though it probably can’t hurt, or that folate would help or any dietary substance for that matter, except to avoid deficiency in these needed nutrients. I wouldn’t suggest any program for increasing these in your diet more than a small amount.

Charles Yanofsky


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QAs a victim of violent crime I’ve had L facial traumatic paralysis,compressed 8 nerve,multiple L facial fractures, base skull fracture, broken L orbital bone, crushed sinus cavities, perforated tympanic membrane. Repositioned (surgically) orbital bone.nasal packing sinuses. My Vertigo started after arousal from ICU where I was for 3 months. I was sent home with no medical treatment for facial nerve damage or my vertigo. Vertigo persisted for several months as I regained use of my L eye almost complete closure. My smile is normal except during chewing ,smiling use of bottom lip. My L eye droops and closes(nerve regeneration/crossed??) Vertigo reoccurred a number of times as severe spinning. A Spinning sensation has now stopped but I am off balance, foggy, nauseated, unable to work. Question? Any new developments since 1981 for facial paralysis associated with vertigo? Am not concerned about face symmetry but would like to know I won’t have another vertigo attack especially 14 years since the last one and 18 years since onset. Could this perhaps be nerve regeneration via compressed myelin sheath/inflammation after 18 yrs. I'm sure there are many new medical technologies since 1981. Thank-you.
AI'm afraid your vertigo could have many causes, most related to either inner ear trauma or eighth nerve damage, not, the facial paralysis. My best guess, given your brief description, and pls understand this is a clinical guess, is that your vertigo is not due to damage to the vestibular (part of the 8th) nerve. Vertigo due to damage of this nerve can be severe, but it usually remits. When the nerve is cut, vertigo ordinarily lasts days to weeks until the brain makes adjustments. Recurrent vertigo that you describe is less likely to occur. Another possibility is that you had damage centrally to the brainstem,affecting the central connections of the vestibular nerve designated as the vestibular nuclei, but I doubt this given your description as well. The greatest liklihood is that there was damage to some inner ear structures. Post traumatically the most likely situation is having loose otoliths akin to Benign positional vertigo. Pls see my discussion on that subject. This is a treatable condition. The proble lots of times tends to come and go. But I just don't have a good enough description of your symptoms. There's lots of information available on the internet and the library on BPPV. Alternately you may have any of a number of conditions relating to inner ear trauma, for example a fistula, but again your brief description would make that particular entity unlikely. My advice? Things have changed in recent years. If you are troubled by vertigo get a good exam from someone with an interest in vertigo perhaps at a University Medical Center. The vestibular disorders assn (linked to our site) has a listing of such practitioners and any large medical school may have a neuro-otologist who can help you make a specific diagnosis. Good luck.

Charles Yanofsky


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QI have a relative who is in a persistent vegetative state and was wondering if he is capable of feeling any pain or if he is suffering or what it is exactly he is experiencing.
AThe best way to characterize PVS is that the patient may be awake but unaware. Theoretically in PVS there are sleep wake cycles so that sometimes a person will behaviorally seem to be awake, yet they don't experience environmental stimuli. In the typical case, there is so much widespread damage to the cortex of the brain which mediates experience, there cannot be conscious registration of external stimuli. As far as pain is concerned, there are usually rudimentary pain responses, such as a grimace and either posturing or withdrawal which are automatic responses mediated by lower (non-cortical) parts of the nervous system, the spinal cord and brainstem, but there is no experience of pain per se. It's somewhat like putting someone under anesthesia. If you anesthetize the cortex, perform surgery and later arouse a person, she will not experience or recall pain even though (if you don't use neuromuscular blockers) there may be withdrawal and certain response to pain mediated by lower nervous centers.

I've gone so far as to ask critically ill patients who were given very uncomfortable therapies, intubation, i.v. lines, surgical procedures, blood drawings over long stays in the intensive care unit (many times it looks like we are torturing these poor folks) what they recall. The answer is that they recall little or nothing most of the time presumably because they were so sick, that there was an altered level of awareness. So the short answer is "no", theoretically there is no true pain in PVS, unless you include in pain some behavioral manifestations such as posturing and withdrawal and not the conscious awareness of pain. Should a person with PVS regain awareness as rarely occurs, they ought not to remember painful events.

(This answers popular metaphysical questions. In order to suffer, at least to recall pain, you have to be aware enough to experience it. The organ of awareness is the cortex, which, for the most part, is not functioning in the so-called persistent vegetative state, and in coma, also during anesthesia, and in conditions where there is restricted blood flow to the brain. The absence of suffering in such subjects and the recollection of such suffering later on, fairly explodes romantic myths about so-called “out of body experiences” so popular in the press. Awareness takes place in matter, body and brain, and not outside of it, so far as anyone can tell. Also you can get into interesting corollary questions: Does a lobster suffer, does a newborn baby or even a fetus suffer though what you may see is some outer behavioral manifestations of suffering. The answer would appear to be “no.”)

Charles Yanofsky


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QI have recently undertaken a full-time degree at University. I have been experiencing extreme nausea every time I have to take notes by looking up and down at the board. Someone has informed me that this is a kind of Vertigo. I have experienced it before but thought that it had cured itself. I would appreciate any information you could give me. ps: I tried to contact someone in the UK, however the page was unavailable.
AVertigo is an hallucination of spinning or movement and you don't say if this is what you have. Frequently benign positional vertigo will occur just at the time you bend your neck to look up or down and it is a problem in the inner ear described at our website and in many other places. If you have this it is readily treatable and it does come and go sometimes as you describe. Going according to your description though you could have other things some more serious but most are not threatening to your health.

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QIs restless legs a symptom of MS? I have a problem where myr legs constantly move if sitting or especially going to sleep. I have trouble getting to sleep. There are other problems too and doctors wonder about MS. My MRI was normal and doctors wanted to do evoked response tests.
ANothing's impossible but no one in memory has complained of restless legs as a result of MS. Restless legs is a sleep disorder in and of itself. It does sometimes run in families and there are good treatments mostly involving antiparkinson drugs, what are known as Dopamine agonists. Some persons with MS have spasticity which results in their legs moving in bed, but that occurs in more advanced stages where there is already considerable dysfunction in the legs and not what you describe here. As it turns out evoked response tests are not as much used today to diagnose MS. We do still use them to answer specific questions, but only rarely.

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QMy daughter went into cardio respiratory arrest at the age of 18. Her brain injury was the occipital lobe and parietal lobe. She can lift her head up at times and she turns her head towards my voice. She smiles and laughs out loud. She still can't walk, talk, move legs or arms has cortical blindness and is still on a feeding tube. She is cared forin a nursing unit. It is a brain injury rehab. They have decreased her therapy. She is 20 years old now. Her EEG showed around 1 year ago that she had no cortical activity. A neurologist read her EEG, but my case manager said he didn't think it was an accurate reading, because of her small gains. Is it possible she can improve more?
APlease understand that I'm no smarter than many of the doctors who have examined your daughter and it's not possible to say very much at all without knowing about her entire situation and examining her. Our ability to make any statements about recovery after brain injury is imperfect under the best of circumstances. I can tell you that if your daughter's EEG showed no activity, that in and of itself indicates that the cortex or upper part of the brain is basically not functioning and is very unlikely to come back. Still she can have reflex movements that come from lower areas of the brain, designated as the brainstem, which is more resistant to injury. I may have misunderstood you, but it seems she has not regained consciousness and we would not expect that with an EEG that shows no activity. Also a person who has not regained consciousness in over a year certainly, would not be expected ever to awaken particularly after an anoxic injury except under very unusual circumstances including wrong diagnosis. If your daughter hasn't had an EEG in over one year, it wouldn't be an unreasonable thing to repeat it to see if there is activity there, but my expectations wouldn't be high.

Please understand that I do not at all know the entire situation and hesitate to make any but the most general statements. I sympathize with you in this heart rending situation.

Charles Yanofsky


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QThe one thing I couldn't find on your website was dizziness as a result of a B12 deficiency. I have been diagnosed with this and have received B12 shots (100 mcg/week) for the past several months. However, over the past two weeks, symptoms have returned, namely tingling in feet, dizziness and fatigue. My GP has not investigated other than the initial array of blood tests i.e. has not checked for folate deficiency, Schilling's test etc. Blood pressure, which has been 120 or 110/80 for the past twenty years has risen somewhat (131/62) but that's about it. Do you think a referral to a neurologist would be helpful? I am in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
AB12 deficiency causes a host of more serious neurological problems, though it is perhaps possible to have dizziness as part of an array of symptoms. It's due to a defect in absorption rather than a dietary deficiency which means the reason should usually be investigated, from stomach to small intestinal (jejunal) abnormalities and it's even been reported with flatworm infestation though nothing serious is usually found. If you are still dizzy (you don't describe what kind of dizziness you have) a neurologist would be a good place to start.

Charles Yanofsky


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QThe one thing I couldn't find on your website was dizziness as a result of a B12 deficiency. I have been diagnosed with this and have received B12 shots (100 mcg/week) for the past several months. However, over the past two weeks, symptoms have returned, namely tingling in feet, dizziness and fatigue. My GP has not investigated other than the initial array of blood tests i.e. has not checked for folate deficiency, Schilling's test etc. Blood pressure, which has been 120 or 110/80 for the past twenty years has risen somewhat (131/62) but that's about it. Do you think a referral to a neurologist would be helpful? I am in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
AB12 deficiency causes a host of more serious neurological problems, though it is perhaps possible to have dizziness as part of an array of symptoms. It's due to a defect in absorption rather than a dietary deficiency which means the reason should usually be investigated, from stomach to small intestinal (jejunal) abnormalities and it's even been reported with flatworm infestation though nothing serious is usually found. If you are still dizzy (you don't describe what kind of dizziness you have) a neurologist would be a good place to start.

Charles Yanofsky


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QFirst and foremost you have the most informative and concise webpage that I have found. Every night for the past 11 nights I've been searching for help on my father's condition. I've printed approx. 50 and none have remotely come close to telling me what yours does, not even in combination. I don't know if you do this but I'm going to ask. I'm really not happy with the medical attention that my father has received thus far. It took his cardiologist 7 mos. to determine that he was retaining fluid and was going into congestive heart failure. This was after his bypass!! He had triple bypass. Later he developed shingles (they lasted about 1 mon.) Then he had retinopathy on both eyes (no complications to my knowledge), 11 days ago he came down with a severe case of vertigo and he still isn't on track. His internal medicine doctor is going to have 3 tests run, which ones I don't know except he is doing a CT. His doctor feels that this is vertigo but does want to rule out stroke. My father is only 66, has had really good health up to 10 yrs. ago when diagnosed with diabetes (takes 2 pills daily). Many family members have had diabetes and blood vessel disease. I’d just visited for a week when 3 days later he had this severe episode. He's very proud and doesn't like to admit any kind of defeat so he would not go to the emergency room. The following morning he went to the doctor and was treated with medication which he said helped a little. He described his symptoms as nausea and vomiting, spinning and dizziness, weakness on the left side of his body and he wore an eye patch,so that he could somewhat focus on things. . She said that he is much better and he has improved but he still favors his right side and had nausea and vomiting again last night. He returns to the doctor for tests results.
AIf I understand you correctly, your dad seems to have vertigo, Vomiting, unsteadiness, Left sided weakness and double vision (the reason why most people cover an eye to see clearly. ) These symptoms suggest a brainstem stroke in a person at who has blood vessel disease, until proven otherwise. This is a serious condition. Seen at the time of onset, he would definitely be admitted to a hospital, but now he is some 11 days out which lessens the danger somewhat. The American Academy of Neurology has a list of neurologists in your area, but I don't personally know any of them. This list with addresses etc can be found at aan.com. It sounds like he needs to see a competent neurologist. Pls understand that I cannot diagnose someone by long distance going according to a third hand clinical description but brainstem stroke seems like the most likely diagnosis here. I'd advise you to call asap and get your dad evaluated. Pls let me know how it all turns out.

Charles Yanofsky

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